Part I · Chapter 1 · The Ask · lesson 6
Why you are not allowed to be the one who says you did it
10 min
Part I · Chapter 1 · The Ask · lesson 6
10 min
You can do every part of this yourself. You can draw the boundary, write the policies, run the reviews, collect the artefacts, and assemble a folder that answers every question anybody has ever asked you.
And then you cannot sign the last page, and no amount of being right about the rest of it changes that.
Predict
Independence has a narrow technical meaning and a blunt practical one.
Technically: the person forming the view has no interest in what the view turns out to be. They did not design your controls, they do not operate them, their fee does not depend on the conclusion, and they are accountable to a professional body rather than to you.
Practically: their calendar is not your calendar. They have a finite number of weeks in the year, those weeks are worst at the end of a calendar year and quarter, and the fieldwork leg of your countdown belongs to them.
That second meaning is the one that bites. Every other date in this subject can be moved by working harder. This one can only be moved by booking earlier.
There is a second kind of audit here, and conflating the two is common enough to be worth separating now.
One framework expects an organisation to audit itself on a cycle, as part of the management system — findings and all, which the external auditor then reads. The clause to look up in your own copy is 9.2. The decision it forces is who performs that internal audit, and the only hard constraint is that it cannot be the people who own the thing being audited. Your own staff can do it. Somebody auditing their own control cannot.
The external opinion is different in kind. It is not a better version of your internal audit; it is a document addressed to somebody else, and the reason it exists is that the somebody else has no way to check you.
Not the same thing
Your own judgement about your own controls, written down by the people who run them.
A view formed by somebody with no stake in the answer, addressed to readers who cannot check you themselves.
Both sides accept
Both look at the same controls and both want the same artefacts. The difference is who the document is for, and that difference is what independence is protecting.
Which is which? Put each one on a side.
The person who built the access review process checks whether it ran
A firm with no commercial interest in the conclusion forms a view about the same reviews
Your colleague from another team audits a control they do not own, and writes up two findings
The fieldwork weeks that sit between your period closing and the report existing
Something people say
“We will do the work ourselves and send the buyer our own assessment — it is the same controls either way.”
What exactly is missing from the self-assessment?
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